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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #19 - 03/03/09 at 05:55:18
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Hi all,
I am wondering is hellsten's coverage of the Kan sharper than say the sharpest Accelerated Dragon lines??  Is the Kan as sharp or shaper than the Taimanov??
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #18 - 01/19/09 at 14:52:11
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alumbrado wrote on 01/18/09 at 12:57:45:
Well, it's a repertoire book so inevitably not everyone is going to have their favourite variation covered.  The great thing is that if you also have the Emms book and are prepared to have a crack at your database, you can always play different lines as well as or instead of the ones covered.


In my mind this is how a repetoire book should be used: pick the lines you like and replace the line syou don't like with other lines. A good repetoire book also points towards some alternative lines without going too much in detail.
  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #17 - 01/18/09 at 12:57:45
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Well, it's a repertoire book so inevitably not everyone is going to have their favourite variation covered.  The great thing is that if you also have the Emms book and are prepared to have a crack at your database, you can always play different lines as well as or instead of the ones covered.
  

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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #16 - 01/14/09 at 11:36:21
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lnn2 wrote on 12/29/08 at 16:20:42:
The minor drawback is that I think his main line 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7 (and if 7. Qg4 g6) is somewhat too passive but that is just a question of taste. I thought 7. Qg4 Bf6 would have been more active. Topalov and Ivanchuk (against Topalov!) have also used the more enterprising 6... Ba7 recently, while Milov and Carlsen have tried the interesting 5... Ne7 (see recent NIC yearbook). The rest of the repertoire is aggresive enough though.

Ultimately White is "+=" in many positions in this book, but hey White is also += in my beloved French and Caro-Kann and that hasn't stopped me from playing them.


Which yearbook covers this "Milov" variation? I really was surprised to see Carlsen play Milov's idea, which he seems to have pilfered from Taimanov.
  

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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #15 - 12/29/08 at 16:20:42
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I just got this book today and it is imho better than Emms.
This book is surprisingly filled with variations for a "non-theoretical" opening like the Kan, but Hellsten also manages to weave in plenty of verbal explanations so it reads well.

I like that Hellsten advocates a "system" by recommending a consistent piece setup that can be used against most white moves, this setup appears similar to the Najdorf (!) in many lines.

The minor drawback is that I think his main line 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7 (and if 7. Qg4 g6) is somewhat too passive but that is just a question of taste. I thought 7. Qg4 Bf6 would have been more active. Topalov and Ivanchuk (against Topalov!) have also used the more enterprising 6... Ba7 recently, while Milov and Carlsen have tried the interesting 5... Ne7 (see recent NIC yearbook). The rest of the repertoire is aggresive enough though.

Ultimately White is "+=" in many positions in this book, but hey White is also += in my beloved French and Caro-Kann and that hasn't stopped me from playing them.
  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #14 - 12/17/08 at 19:14:49
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Bibs wrote on 11/22/08 at 21:53:01:
see that, iirc, Ivanchuk and Nakamura both played kan with ...Be7 in Dresden.
Worth a look maybe.

Am waiting for my copy....


[Event "2008 Olympiad"]
[Site "Dresden GER"]
[Date "2008.11.17"]
[EventDate "2008.11.13"]
[Round "5"]
[Result "0-1"]
[White "Peter Leko"]
[Black "Vassily Ivanchuk"]
[ECO "B42"]
[WhiteElo "2747"]
[BlackElo "2786"]
[PlyCount "254"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7
7. Qg4 Bf6 8. Qg3 Nc6 9. Nc3 Nge7 10. O-O O-O 11. Bg5 Bxg5
12. Qxg5 d6 13. f4 b5 14. f5 Ne5 15. Rad1 Qb6+ 16. Kh1 f6
17. Qg3 Kh8 18. fxe6 Bxe6 19. Be2 b4 20. Nd4 Bd7 21. Nd5 Nxd5
22. exd5 Rac8 23. a3 a5 24. axb4 Qxb4 25. b3 Rc3 26. Qf4 Rfc8
27. Rd2 a4 28. bxa4 Bxa4 29. Qf5 Bd7 30. Ne6 Qb2 31. Bd3 Nxd3
32. Rxd3 Qxc2 33. Rxc3 Qxc3 34. Qg4 Rg8 35. Ng5 Be8 36. Ne4
Qc4 37. Qf5 Qa6 38. Qf4 Bf7 39. Nxd6 Bxd5 40. Nf5 Qe2 41. Rf2
Qd1+ 42. Rf1 Qd3 43. Kg1 Be6 44. h3 Qd7 45. Kh2 Rd8 46. Rf2
Kg8 47. Rf3 Kh8 48. Rf2 Qf7 49. Rf3 Qa7 50. Rf1 Qb8 51. Qxb8
Rxb8 52. Nd4 Bd5 53. Rf2 h6 54. Re2 Rb6 55. Nf5 Be6 56. Nd4
Bd7 57. g4 Rb4 58. Rd2 Kh7 59. Nc2 Rb7 60. Ne3 Be6 61. Rd6 Bf7
62. Rd3 h5 63. Kg3 Bg6 64. Rc3 Rb1 65. Kh4 Rb4 66. Kg3 Re4
67. Ra3 Kh6 68. Rc3 Bh7 69. Ra3 Bg6 70. Rc3 Re5 71. Ng2 Be4
72. Ne3 Kg5 73. h4+ Kg6 74. gxh5+ Rxh5 75. Rc7 Ra5 76. Rc4 Re5
77. Ng4 Re7 78. Rc5 Kh7 79. h5 Rf7 80. Kf4 Bd3 81. Nf2 Be2
82. Ne4 Ra7 83. Rc6 Rf7 84. Ng3 Bb5 85. Rb6 Ba4 86. Ra6 Bb3
87. Rb6 Ba2 88. Ra6 Bc4 89. Rc6 Bd5 90. Rd6 Bg2 91. Rd2 Bb7
92. Rc2 Re7 93. Rc4 Bd5 94. Rc5 Rd7 95. Rb5 Bc4 96. Rc5 Rd4+
97. Ke3 Rd3+ 98. Kf4 Bd5 99. Nf5 Be6 100. Ng3 Rd4+ 101. Ke3
Rg4 102. Kf3 Ra4 103. Ke3 Kh6 104. Kf3 Rh4 105. Rc7 Rb4
106. Rc5 Ra4 107. Rb5 Rh4 108. Rb8 Kh7 109. Rb5 Kh6 110. Rb8
Bg4+ 111. Ke3 Rh3 112. Kf2 Rh2+ 113. Kg1 Ra2 114. Rh8+ Kg5
115. h6 gxh6 116. Ne4+ Kf5 117. Nxf6 Kxf6 118. Rxh6+ Kg5
119. Rh2 Ra1+ 120. Kf2 Kf4 121. Rh8 Ra2+ 122. Ke1 Re2+
123. Kf1 Kg3 124. Rd8 Re3 125. Rg8 Re7 126. Rg5 Rh7 127. Ke1
Rd7 0-1

[Event "2008 Olympiad"]
[Site "Dresden GER"]
[Date "2008.11.20"]
[EventDate "2008.11.13"]
[Round "7"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[White "Zoltan Almasi"]
[Black "Hikaru Nakamura"]
[ECO "B42"]
[WhiteElo "2663"]
[BlackElo "2704"]
[PlyCount "167"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7  7. Qg4 Bf6 8. N1d2 Nc6 9. Qg3 d6 10. Nc4 e5 11. Be3 Be6
12. Nb6 Rb8 13. c3 Nge7 14. O-O O-O 15. Rad1 Nc8 16. Nd5 Bh4
17. Qf3 Bg5 18. Be2 Bxe3 19. Nxe3 b5 20. Nc5 Qa5 21. Nxe6 fxe6
22. Qh3 Qxa2 23. Bg4 Nd8 24. Ra1 Qxb2 25. Bxe6+ Nxe6 26. Qxe6+
Kh8 27. Nf5 Rb7 28. Rxa6 Qxc3 29. Ra8 Rbf7 30. h3 Qc7 31. Qd5
g6 32. Rxc8 Rxc8 33. Nxd6 Rd7 34. Qxe5+ Rg7 35. Qd4 Rb8
36. Rb1 Qa7 37. Qe5 Rf8 38. Ne8 Qxf2+ 39. Kh1 Qf7 40. Nxg7
Qxg7 41. Qxb5 Qd4 42. Re1 Qc3 43. Rd1 Rf7 44. Qg5 Kg7 45. Rc1
Qd4 46. Re1 Qf6 47. Qg3 Re7 48. e5 Qe6 49. Kh2 h6 50. Kh1 Re8
51. Qf4 Re7 52. Re3 Qf5 53. Qb4 Qe6 54. Qc5 Re8 55. Qc7+ Re7
56. Qc3 Re8 57. Re4 Re7 58. Qg3 Qf5 59. Re3 Qe6 60. Kh2 Qf5
61. Kg1 Qe6 62. Qf4 Qf5 63. Qb4 Qe6 64. h4 h5 65. Qf4 Rf7
66. Qg5 Rf5 67. Qg3 Kh7 68. Re1 Kg7 69. Qe3 Kh7 70. Qd4 Kg7
71. Re3 Kh7 72. Re2 Kg7 73. Re1 Kh7 74. Qd6 Qxd6 75. exd6 Rd5
76. Re7+ Kh6 77. d7 g5 78. hxg5+ Kg6 79. Kf2 Rd1 80. Ke2 Rd6
81. Kf3 Kxg5 82. Ke4 Kf6 83. Rh7 Rd1 84. Rxh5 1/2-1/2

  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #13 - 12/16/08 at 13:51:32
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this book is really cool.  Mine just arrived today.  The explanations are fantastic.  Not sure if I should be happy or not that he doesnt really hit my favored lines which include the koblencs goletiani against 5. Nc3 and vs 5.Bd3 I had preferred 5...Bc5 followed by Ba7, because it seemed to offer more tactical opportunities.  But Hellsten's explanations are awesome.  
I havent looked at the minor lines, which were my own only complaint about Emms excellent book.  Emms was obviously confined to much less pages, so Hellsten has ample room to explain more ideas, and include more text.  On quick review, Hellsten does discuss a more broad range of white's 5th move alternatives.
Interestingly, he repeatedly says he doesnt like concrete variation and steers clear of early draws as well.  
Trying to decide if I should adopt his 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7 line, or stick with 6...Ba7.  hmmm.
Anyway, the book looks very well written.
  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #12 - 12/03/08 at 23:11:15
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Novosibirsk wrote on 11/20/08 at 19:46:58:
I got the book today. 320 pages


WOW! 320 pages ! I have John Emm's 2002 book which was 192 pages and offered a complete treatment - it was not a repertoire book.

Has theory balloned that much in the Kan in the last few years, or Is Hellsten just being a lot more thorough?
  

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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #11 - 11/26/08 at 01:24:27
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The game Caruana-Kveinys, also attached as pgn-file.

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 a6 5. Bd3 Nf6 6. O-O Qc7 7. e2 d6 8. f4 Be7 9. c4 Nbd7 10. Nc3 b6 11. Kh1 Bb7 12. Bd2 g6 13. Rac1 O-O 14. f5 gxf5 15. exf5 e5 16. Nd5 Qd8 17. Ne6 fxe6 18. fxe6 Nc5 19. Bf5 Kh8 20. Rc3 Nxd5 21. cxd5 Bxd5 22. Rh3 Bh4 23. Be1 Rg8 24. Bxh4 Rxg2 25. Qxg2 Bxg2+ 26. Kxg2 Qf8 27. Bg6 Nxe6 28. Bf6+ Kg8 29. Bxh7+ Kf7 30. Bxe5+ 1-0
  

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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #10 - 11/25/08 at 22:40:58
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Much as I usually admire John Emms as an author, is this a better read than his Kan book ( which I found a trifle dull and therefore never fully explored)?

Mind you, if you check Caruana- Kveinys (round 10) from Dresden this is simply fantastic. I had wondered on the fuss Chessbase makes of Caruana but now understand - both players were down to their last 5 minutes before move 24 which might give you a flavour - staggering to think this was on a relatively low match board....

Anyway, I am keen to re-visit the Kan after this.  Tongue
  
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Reply #9 - 11/22/08 at 21:53:01
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see that, iirc, Ivanchuk and Nakamura both played kan with ...Be7 in Dresden.
Worth a look maybe.

Am waiting for my copy....
  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #8 - 11/22/08 at 18:26:46
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Hellsten says in the book that he prefers  1.e4 c5 nf3 e6 d4 cxd4 nxd4 a6 bd3 bc5 nb3 6...Be7 because  6...Ba7 leads to a different type of game. He says  6...Be7 has more similarities with the repertoire approach against  5.Nc3.

Topalov who today defeated Emanuel Berg with the Kan did NOT play according to Hellstens repertoire. Topalov played 6...Ba7.
  

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Reply #7 - 11/22/08 at 17:24:41
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Topalov played the Kan today and won against Berg !
Was the Variation in the book ?
  
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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #6 - 11/22/08 at 13:00:58
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lnn2 wrote on 11/21/08 at 11:12:35:
Thanks Novosibirsk... does Hellsten cover both 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7 and 6... Ba7? The latter is a point scorer for me in blitz, but admittedly not so good at slower time controls...Sad

quite surprised that 5. Nc3 is so popular these days though.


Well..I dont have the book infront of me right now as I am at a friends home but as I recall it he only has  6...Be7 and he mentioned something about 6...Ba7 why he doesnt play it.  I will look it up more in detail when I come home and post a line about it.

This repertoire is Hellstens own  Kan repertoire which he plays regularly.
  

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Re: sicilian kan by Hellsten
Reply #5 - 11/21/08 at 11:12:35
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Thanks Novosibirsk... does Hellsten cover both 5. Bd3 Bc5 6. Nb3 Be7 and 6... Ba7? The latter is a point scorer for me in blitz, but admittedly not so good at slower time controls...Sad

quite surprised that 5. Nc3 is so popular these days though.
  
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